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Tuesday, August 23, 2016
Ship’s Registry – Canada
I was working diligently on a totally different subject
which involved descendancy from William Marshall (1146-1219), when I
unexpectedly hit a snag. I ran into a piece of data that had been used to
verify a family line only to find out that it has since been discredited. This
proves to me that I should go back and check documentations and verifications,
every so often, instead of thinking they were carved in stone. Since I didn’t
want to spread misinformation, I have tabled that blog until such time that
more solid documentation can be found.
My replacement blog is very far from blood lines and who was
who. My maternal ancestors hail from New Brunswick
and Nova Scotia.
I’d have to make a guess they all fall into three categories, farmers, ship
builders and seamen. The areas around Hopewell,
Dorchester and Sackville, NB, were noted for their ship building. So I
have included a number of ship registrations that, in some way, were connected
to my family. Perhaps you will find a connection to a name listed here, if you
have family links to NB. I haven’t compiled NS information yet – another day,
Port of Registration: Saint
John, New Brunswick
“Hattie C.” – A
wooden schooner built in Hopewell.
Gross and New tonnage were both 159. Registered in 1883; Official #85598. Sold
to Rufus Palmer of Hopewell Cape,
NB, a carpenter, dated Aug 13
1888, by Caleb Dowling. Other owners were: Mary M. Steeves, Mariner Teed,
Martha Buck, Emma Backhouse and Bessie Backhouse. These parties sold their
interests in this schooner to Frederick Clinton Palmer of Dorchester, NB, a
merchant, on Aug 26 1902. The schooner was lost in a storm while captained by
“W. W. McLauchlan”
This ship (type unknown) was registered on Aug 1 1903 in Saint John, NB.
It’s Official # was 100070. Some of the shares of this ship were owned by D.
Bennett, James G. Pye, Rufus J. Palmer, Ada J. Palmer and Sarah G. Palmer. It was totally lost on Forcados Bar, Southern Nigeria on May 17 1909. Registry closed Jun 29
Port of Registry: Dorchester,
“Otis Miller” – This
wooden schooner was sold to Alexander Cole ofDorchester, NB a Master Mariner, by Moses Miller. It’s
gross tonnage was 113 and the net tonnage was 97. The bill of sale was dated
Feb 231906. The Registry date was
Mar 13 1906. The Official # was 103268. Frederick Clinton Palmer was also
listed as an owner. Wrecked at Martin Head, NB and was a total loss. Registry
closed Sep 26 1938.
“Sarah Chambers” –
A three-masted barque; British sailing vessel, round stern, constructed of
wood. Built Jul 21 1874, Master: John Rutherford; Builder: William Hickman;
Registered Sep 1874 @ 3:00 p.m. Official # 71042, gross tonnage 1036, net
tonnage 921. James Chambers, shipbuilder, Dorchester,
NB owned one share. Originally
there were ten owners dividing 64 shares. By Sept 1874 there were 14 owners.
Sold to Wilhelm Volichens of Hapsburg,
1900 £, in April 1891. [My note- James
Chambers is my 2nd gt. grandfather and his wife was Sarah Chambers.
Although I have no way of knowing if this ship was named after my 2nd
gt. grandmother, I’ve always wanted to believe that it was. Such a romantic
“Flying Scud” –
One deck with poop, 2-masted brigantine, square rigged. Registered: 1876;
Official # 71046; gross tonnage 355, net tonnage 297. Builder: George Buck and
also owner. He held 4 shares. DeMill Buck, farmer, owned 60 shares. George Buck
sold his shares to Mariner [this is the man’s first name] and Josiah Wood,
merchants for the sum of $1200 @ 6% interest. Expired Feb 3 1876. Master:
Thomas Lewis Dixon. Ship wrecked near Manchuria,
China, Sep 27 1878 and
condemned by a board of Surrey and sold with
her cargo on Oct 1 1878. Registration forwarded to London
via Ottawa, Jan
23 1879. Registry closed Dec 31 1878.
“Bessie May” –
Sailing vessel, one deck with poop, 2-masted brigantine, square rigged. Registration
was 1875 and the Official # was 71049. Gross tonnage was 352 and net tonnage
was 285. Master: John Wilmot Buck, owned 8 shares, bill of sale May 5 1876.
Builder: Edward Chambers; William Edward Buck owned 2 shares; Robert Buck owned
2 shares; James Richard Buck, farmer, sold to William E. Buck, Master Mariner,
8 shares on Apr 23 1887. Sale
registered on Jul 2 1887 at 11:00 a.m. Edward Chambers sold 8 shares to Willard
Smith on Nov 23 1876. Edward Chambers sold 8 shares to Charles Upham Chandler,
ship owner and builder on Jun 30 1880. Sale
registered on Jul 2 1880 at 2:00 p.m. Edward Chambers sold to Alexander Black,
2 shares on Oct 4 1880, registered at 2:00 p.m. on Oct 6 1880. Edward Chambers
sold to Alexander Black on Oct 11 1882, 4 shares, registered on Oct 14 1882 at
3:00 p.m. J. W. Buck sold 8 shares to Peter J. Harris at #11 South St.NY, NY on May 21 1877 and the registry date
was Jun 11 1877. There is no indication of this registry being closed or the
remaining history of this ship. [Each time a sale of shares occurred, the sale
had to be registered]
“Ruth Palmer” – 3-masted
barque, round stern, wood construction, sailing vessel. She was built in Dorchester, NB
and registered there in 1875, Official # 71044. Gross tonnage was 948 and net
tonnage was 856. Owners: Charles Smith, holding 8 shares, Joshua King, holding
4 shares, Philip J. Palmer, holding 4 shares, Gideon Palmer holding 48 shares.
Master: Charles Smith; Builder: Gideon Palmer. Joshua King died Sep 20 1891.
His will was dated May 1 1884 appointing William Backhouse and Henry Emmerson
executors. The will was proved Oct 12 1891 in Probate Court. They sold 4 shares
to Philip J. Palmer on Oct 10 1891.
“The Queen of the
Fleet” - 3-masted barque, round stern, wood construction. Builder: Gideon
Palmer, owned 64 shares. Master: William Milner. Registry date was 1876 and
Official # was 71051. Gross tonnage: 955; net tonnage 869. She was built and
registered in Dorchester, NB. Gideon Palmer died on Jun 20 1880. His
will was dated Mar 9 1880 appointing Hiram Weldon Palmer, Philip Jeremiah
Palmer and Marcus Barlow Palmer as executors. The will was approved Jun 28
1889. The three men were listed as ‘Gentlemen.’ Ship sold on Apr 16 1895 to
Augustus Philip Ralph, Broker of London, England for not less than 500£. Sold
to foreigner at Liverpool, England, May 24 1895. Registry
closed Jun 10 1895.
“Bertha Anderson” – A
wooden barque, built and registered in Dorchester,
NB. Gross tonnage: 544; net
tonnage: 473. Official # 71057.William Cochran sold to James Chambers,
shipbuilder, 2 shares on Dec 20 1877. Registered Dec. 21 1877 at 2:00 p.m., who
in turn sold to Sir Albert James Smith, 2 shares on Dec 20 1878. Registered on
Dec 23 1878 at 11:00 a.m. Burned on the island
of Martinique, West
Indies, Jun 27, 1888 and was totally destroyed. Registry closed
Sep 22 1888.
“Matilda Buck” –
sailing vessel, 2-masted wooden brigantine, round stern, built in Rockland, NB,
registered in Dorchester, NB, Official #71058, gross tonnage: 278; net tonnage:
227. Master: Charles A. Buck. Gideon Buck owned 4 shares. Charles A. Buck sold
to William E. Buck, Master Mariner, 2 shares on Jun 11 1878. This sale was
registered Jun 12, 1878 at 11:00 a.m. The ship was stranded at Presque Island, NB
on Mar 30, 1884. It was towed to Boston and sold to American
citizens. Registry closed on May 29, 1884.
“Johnny Smith” – A
wooden brigantine built and registered in Dorchester,
NB, Official # 71045. Year of
registration was 1875. James Chambers sold 1 share to Sir Albert James Smith,
barrister, Nov 20, 1878. The sale was registered on Nov 28 1878 at 11:00 a.m.
James Chambers sold to William Hickman, 1 share, same date. Vessel was wrecked,
foundered near Scotland
“Robert Chapman” –
A wooden barque, built in Rockland and
registered in Dorchester, NB in 1874. Official # 71043, gross tonnage:
1009; net tonnage 907. Nehemiah Cole owned 1 share which he sold to Robert C.
Chapman of Rockland
on Jun 18 1880. Sale
registered on Jun 23, 1880. Gideon Palmer owned 4 shares in 1879.
“Jennie” - Wooden Schooner built in Tidnish, NB.
Builder: Edward Chambers, registered in Dorchester, NB May 28 1881, Official #
79905, gross tonnage: 91; net tonnage: 81. Joshua King and Hiram Weldon Palmer
each owned 16 shares apiece. Registry closed Mar 11 1887.
“P. J. Palmer” –
A wooden barquentine, built and registered in Dorchester, NB,
Offical # 79907. Registry date: 1881. Philip J. Palmer owned 38 shares; Hiram
Weldon Palmer owned 4 shares and Marcus Barlow Palmer owned 8 shares.
Transferred to Lowestoft, Suffolk,
England, Oct 15
1896. Registry closed same date.
“H. W. Palmer” – A
wooden barquentine built in Dorchester, NB.Owned
by the Palmers, Philip J. held 56 shares, Hiram W. held 4 and Marcus B. also
held 4. Master: Charles Marshall Anderson. Registered in Dorchester:
1882, Official #79911, gross tonnage 484, net tonnage 382. Sold foreign Dec 2
1893. Registry closed Dec 16 1893.
“Jennie Palmer” –
Wooden schooner built in Dorchester,
NB and registered there Aug 8
1889. The Official # 79919, gross tonnage 77, net tonnage 66. Owned by the
Palmers, Philip, Hiram and Marcus. Master: John Alexander. This ship was
registered again, Using the same Official # in 1907. It is listed as ‘broken
up’ and the registry was closed May 29 1918.
“Ethel Emmerson” –
Wooden schooner built in Dorchester, NG, registered on Jul 5 1882 in Dorchester. Shipbuilder: James Chambers; Master: EliasTower,
who owned 8 shares, gross tonnage: 204, net tonnage 171, Official # 79910.
Abandoned at sea off Pollock Rip, Nantucket Shoals, Massachusetts,
on Dec 2 1892. Registry closed Dec 31 1892.
“Sarah Godfrey” – A
wooden schooner built in Rockland, NB, registered in Dorchester,
NB, May 7 1883, Official # 79912,
gross tonnage 191, net tonnage 163. Master: Ebenezer Cole Palmer, owned 6
shares. Builder: Philip J. Palmer, owned
2 shares; owner: Robert Chapman. Hiram W. Palmer also owned 4 shares.
“Emma C.” –
2-masted schooner, one deck, square rigged sailing vessel built in Dorchester, NB, gross
tonnage 106, net tonnage 92, registered in Dorchester, NB Aug 3 1883, Official # 79913. Owners James
Chambers, 39 shares; William Hickman 4 shares; Alexander Black, 8 shares. Ship
Joiner: Will Chambers owned 2 shares. Master: William E. Buck. Registry
transferred to Annapolis
on Sep 1 1884 after sale of vessel on Dec 10 1883. Registry closed on Sep 1
“C. U. Chandler” –
Wooden schooner built in Rockland,
NB. Registered in Dorchester, NB
in 1881; official # 79906, gross tonnage 103, net tonnage 91. DeMill Buck owned
13 shares and Robert Buck owned 2 shares. Burned on Oct 8 1888, condemned and
sold. Registry closed Oct 18 1888. This schooner was re-registered in 1889 in Saint John, NB.
It was then listed as ‘broken up’ and the registry was closed on Feb 21 1900.
“Alexander Black” –
A wooden barque built in Harvey, NB and then registered in Dorchester, NB
on Jun 19 1891. It’s Official # was 79920, gross tonnage: 629, net tonnage:
504. Mary Mildred Buck owned 6 shares; Master: Lemuel Allen Buck. Walter Cole
owned 32 shares. Abandoned at sea (waterlogged) near Progress, Mexico.
Registry was closed Mar 3 1913.
Port of Registry: Sackville,
“Alaska” – A sailing vessel built in 1884
by Thomas Egan of Sackville. The owners were Philip J. Palmer, shipbuilder,
Hiram W. Palmer, shipbuilder and owner and Marcus Barlow Palmer, shipbuilder.
Robert McHaffey, Master Mariner. It was registered in 1884 as a wooden
schooner, built in Sackville,
NB. The Official Registry # was
77897. Its gross tonnage was 126 and net tonnage was 118. It was lost at sea
Jul 1, 1912. The registry was closed and sent to Ottawa.
Henry Swan – This
wooden schooner was built in Richibucto,
NB and registered in 1903. It’s
Official # was 75902. Its gross tonnage was 65 and net tonnage was 63. It was
captained by F.W. Cole. The ship was broken up and the registry was closed Jan
“Annie G.” - Wooden schooner built in Dorchester, NB
and registered there in Jul 1886. The Official # 79917, gross tonnage 121, net
tonnage 103. The Palmers, Philip, Hiram and Marcus all owned 3 shares each.
Master: Albert Cole, builder: Thomas Wilbur. Stranded off of Negro Head, NB Dec
5 1888, registry closed Dec 18 1888. Wrecked in Nov 1898.
In closing, I will add that I am related to many of the
people mentioned in the registries, such as James Chamber (2x gt. grandfather)
other Chambers, the Bucks, the Palmers, the Coles and the Towers
Registry #79918, a British sailing vessel; 1 ½ poop, 2
masted schooner, square-rigged, wood
construction, tons – 205.14; 100 feet long, 28 feet wide. Built Jul 23 1887 in Harvey, Alberta Co., New Brunswick, Canada. Owners: Alexander Black, Ship
owner – 8 shares; William E. Buck, Master Mariner – 20 shares; William Yates,
farmer – 6 shares; Gideon Buck, farmer – 4 shares. W.E Buck sold to Matilda C.
Buck, wife of Charles A. Buck, Master Mariner, 2 shares on Aug 23 1887. Sale registered on Aug 25
1887 at 3:00 p.m. (2 mates and 4 seamen and possibly a passenger.)
Example of a square-rigged 2 masted schooner
The above which is classed with a star *A-1 ten years from
Jul 1887 in record of American and Foreign shipping. “The American Ship Masters
The above ship ‘Arabella” sailed from New
York, NY, USA, Dec 12 1887 bound for Halifax, NS
with cargo of coal and oil under deck and a deck load of timber. No tidings has
been received from her and she is given up as lost at sea. Registry closed the
12th day of May 1888 and mailed a copy of this form to Marine Dept.,
May 12 1888. Walter Dobson, Register of Ships.
# of original crew, including Master – 7
Originally sailed from NY,
Last sailed from NY,
Destination – Halifax,
Where casualty happened – unknown – supposed Atlantic Ocean. Small insurance of vessel. Info given to
Alexander Black, Esq., Dorchester,
Heavy gales occurred a few days after vessel sailed and it
is supposed she went down.
Master Mariner – William Edward Buck
First Mate - Alexander
As the family story goes, as the “Arabella” was outbound in
Long Island Sound, an inbound ship, from their home port, hailed them by
megaphone, warning them of an approaching storm. The warning was not heeded and
the ship continued. It is thought they may have been trying to reach home
before Christmas. The “Arabella” was never heard from again.
Alexander Chambers, age 32 at the time was married and the
father of two children. He was my gt. grandfather.
William Edward Buck was the husband of my gt. grandmother’s
sister. William and Alexander were brothers-in-law.
Another example of a 2 masted, square rigged schooner
Well, summer has taken up a huge amount of my time. I’ve
been battling weeds, weeds, weeds. The vegetable garden is in but ever so
thirsty. We have had very little rain in the last month or so. I’m taking a
much needed break from green stained fingers and dirt trimmed fingernails to
try to get back to my blog.
I’m going to attempt to get a name out there that has been a
thorn in my side for 20+ years. The name is Sagerton. This name is not only the
bastion of all brick walls, for me, but sometimes makes me wonder if it hasn’t
completely ‘daughtered out’ and no longer exists.
My great grandmother, Bridget Sheehan Broderick was born c.
1850 somewhere in Galway, Ireland, so we think. She left Ireland for Boston
in 1868 and is found in the 1870 Hyde
Park, MA census,
living with the Daniel Sullivan family. It hasn’t been determined if she came
to the USA
especially to work for them or if they are related to each other in some way.
She married my great grandfather, Matthew Broderick, in Hyde Park, MA
in 1874. There were other Sheehans in Hyde Park
during that time, but again, it hasn’t been determined if there was any
The real stickler shows up when you see Bridget’s death
certificate. Her mother was Honora Sagerton and her father was Michael Sheehan.
Doing any kind of a search on the name Sagerton comes up with a staggering number
of ZERO results. There is no rootsweb mailing list for this family, although
there is one tiny little place in TX with this name. Trouble is it was named
for a man named Sager. Even that name seems to have no association with
Sagerton. Then I got truly excited when I found two families of Sagertons, a
Stephen and a Patrick, in Kiltullagh, Brackloonbeg, Galway,
in 1821 census. But, of course, as luck would have it, there was no Honora,
Nora, Anna or even a Hannah. Still, I now have some hope that further digging
will bring more information about this ever so elusive family. Two more
unrelated, of course, tidbits did show up:
A Mary Sagerton was a marriage witness
on Apr. 29 1838 for John Cain and Mary Mahoney.
A Maria Sagerton was born to a
Martin Sagerton and a Brigida Mellady (sic.) on Aug 11 1863.
So – recapping –
1821 - Patrick and Stephen Sagerton
1838 – Mary Sagerton, daughter or
wife of some Sagerton
1850 – Honora Sagerton, mother of
1863 - Martin Sagerton and daughter Maria
1821 census Kiltullagh Brackloonbeg Galway
So for a period of about 40 years,
Sagertons do show up in various places, but this is the sum total of about 20+
years of searching.
You might find it hard to believe
that I’m thrilled to have this much. Five years ago I was positive that
Sagerton was a misspelling or a mispronounced name and that I would never find
a person with that name. It has surely helped immensely that more and more
Irish information and documents are now available on line.
The caveat there is, you need to know the Parish and the TownLand,
which I didn’t. Otherwise, you must plow through all the records, which are
photos of each page, figure out the handwriting and, in some cases, the Latin.
I now have some hope there will be more discoveries. I would
be ever so grateful if you would let me know if anyone comes across this name
in their research, travels or readings. ThePyePlate@gmail.com
John de Macclesfield de Hanmer is my 21st great
grandfather. He was the s/o Thomas de Macclesfield in the County Palatine of
Cheshire, England. John de Macclesfield,
(1277-1308) was the constable of CarnarvonCastle in the reign of
Edward I. He assumed the named
Hannemere, from the surrounding locale.
He married Hawise verch (ferch)
Einion, (1280-1300). She was born in Monmouthshire, Wales. Her grandfather, Gryffydd ap Gwenwynwyn was a
Prince of Powys. Their youngest son and sole heir, Philip de Hanmer,
(1200-1328) married Agnes verch Daffydd (1305-?). They had at least 5 children,
Daffydd (David) being the oldest and the line I’m following.
David (c.1330-1383) married Angharad (Agnes) ferch Llywelyn
Sir David became a justice of the Kings’ Bench in 1383. They
had at least 4 children, one of whom was
Margaret Hanmer. She married Owain Glyndwr about 1380 and they had eleven
children. In 1413, Margaret, her daughter, Catherine de Mortimer and her three small children were
imprisoned in the Tower
of London. It is believed
that Margaret was pardoned but Catherine and her children perished there.
The line continues with Alice Glyndwr (1371-1433). Alice married John
Scudamore, Sheriff of Herefordshire. It is suggested that this was a secret
marriage, possibly for political reasons. Alice’s
father, Owain Glydwr, rebelled against King Henry IV, in 1401 and declared
himself Prince of Wales. He continued to fight for Welsh Independence until his
death and is, even today, considered a National Hero. It is believed that he
was secretly hidden with his daughter, Alice Scudamore, and her family in a
secluded area of Kentchurch near the Welsh border. Owain Glyndwr is my 18th
gt. grandfather. His date of death and burial place are unknown.
Alice and John Scudamore had 11 children. I have descent
from two of them.
*John Scudamore (1396-1461) m. Joan verch John ap Harry (or
(1398-?) m. John Pye
Philip m. Agnes Huntercombe
*John and Joan Parry Scudamore had 8 children. Their son,
Richard Scudamore, married Jane Monington and had two children (all that I’ve
found). Richard and Jane had a son also named Richard who married Maud Allen.
From this marriage there were 4 children, one of which was Joan (Jonet,
Jonette). Joan married Philip ap Rhys (Philpot Price) and had two daughters. One
was Margaret who married Walter Pye of the Mynde and her sister, Catherine, who
married Thomas Gilbert of Ewyas Harold. In her will, Margaret calls Roger Pye
her grandson and Walter Pye, her son-in-law, was one of the witnesses. Roger is
my 12th gt. grandfather.
The Mynde Much DewChurch Then
The Mynde Much DewChurch Now
*Elizabeth Scudamore and Walter John Pye, c 1398. For many
years, family history has said this husband of Elizabeth was John Pye. Now, with so many
more documents available and accessible on-line, it has become apparent that
John is also called Walter. There is no definitive explanation unless Elizabeth married two different
Pye men, a John and then a Walter. This doesn’t seem to be the case and remains
supposition. What appears more likely, but still not verified, is that Elizabeth’s husband’s
name was John Walter or Walter John. Perhaps one day another document will come
to light that will solve the name mystery. Elizabeth and Walter/John had at
least 3 sons, one of whom was John Tregos Pye who married Agnes Andrews,
daughter of Roger Andrews. Of their 7 children, the most infamous was John Pye
[brother of the Walter Pye who married Margaret Price], who had 3 wives and 43
children, plus some 22 from extramarital associations. His epitaph is still
found in books, but it was removed from the church at Much Dewchurch, as it
greatly offended the sensibilities of some of the local women. I don’t have an
exact date for the removal but it was during the Victorian Era. A further note
on John Tregoz Pye, who is my 15th gt. grandfather, is that Tregoz
appears to be where he was born. This is apparently a locality associated with
Ewyas Harold and may even have been the name of a manor house.
At this point my family lines part company with the Hanmers
and Scudamores (AKA Skidmore, Skydmore and others). I will leave this line of exploration for the
time being and pick up other threads which also lead back to these fairly
prominent Marcher Lords.
Piers1) Milbourne (Milborne), b. 1435, Tillignton, Herefordshire, England
is my 16th gt. grandfather. He married Joan Baskerville, daughter of
Ralph and Anne Blackett (or Blakett) Baskerville. The Baskervilles had held Eardisley, at one
point in their history, which is in the NW section of Herefordshire and very
close to the border of Wales. Simon and Jane had the dubious honor of having 13 daughters.
Some reports I’ve read claim they had a son, John.John was mentioned as the son of Simon in
1469 in a land grant. [PROCAT record (C 146/751]Apparently this son died without issue and
during the life of his father.
The ladies were:
Blanche m. James
m1. Thomas Mornington (Monington);
m2. John Whittington
Richard Hacklyut; m2. John Breynton
m1. Harry Parry; m2. Thomas
Margaret m. John
James More (Moore)
course of researching this family, I discovered an abundance of conflicting
birth dates for the daughters. Since there seemed to be no specific place to
find dates, which didn’t involve international travel, I have decided to
present these women in random order. In a day when arranged marriages was the
norm, Simon must have had his hands full arranging suitable marriages and then
providing a dower for each girl. He did have some land, but still, it must have
been a struggle for him.
Milbourne m. William Rudhall and from this couple I have two lines of
descent. They had at least 6 children, 2
sons and 4 daughters. Their son (a.) John, (1498-1530) married Isabella
Whittington. Their daughter Joan (b.), (c 1510-?) married John Scudamore, 4th
gt. grandson of Owain Glyndwr, National Hero of Wales and a descendant of the
Princes of Powys.
John (a.) and
Isabella Whittington Rudhall had at least 5 children, one of which was another
John. This second John was married to Mary Fettiplace. They had a son,
parents were Richard and Elizabeth Bessiles Fettiplace. Richard’s parents were John and Jane (possibly
Joan) Fabian Fettiplace. John Fettiplace
was a member of King Henry VI’s household and his father was Thomas
Fettiplace who married Beatrice de Portugal, the illegitimate d/o Lopo Dias de Sousa and Elizabeth
Plantagenet. Elizabeth was the d/o John of Gaunt and Blanch Plantagenet.
John of Gaunt was the s/o Edward
III, (Edward II, Edward I). Blanche was the 2x great granddaughter of King Henry III.
[Rudhall Coat of Arms]
Now, back to John and Mary Fettiplace Rudhall.
Their son, William*, married Margaret Croft.
William and Margaret’s daughter, Joanne, married Sir Walter
Pye, Knight Attorney General, court of
Wards and Liveries.
Anne Milbourne and William Rudhall we pick up the second descent through their
daughter Joan Rudhall (b.) who married John Scudamore, of Holme Lacy in
a.) Their daughter
Elizabeth Scudamore married Humphrey Baskerville. They had 8 children. One was named Bridget.
Baskerville Married Roger Bodenham and they had at least 4 children. They had a daughter named Blanche.
c.) Blanche Bodenham
married Edward Lingen. There were 8 children from this marriage, including a daughter named Blanche.
d.) Blanche Lingen
married John Pye, a son of Sir Walter and Joanne Rudhall Pye, as mentioned above. It is said
they had 23 children but I’ve only discovered
the names of 6.
Curiously, Blanche’s older brother, Henry Lingen, who was
greatly distinguished in his service to Charles I, married John Pye’s sister,
Alice. Henry and Alice Pye Lingen had 15 daughters and 2 sons, but only 2 of
this numerous family left issue and both sons died without issue. Henry was MP
(Member of Parliament) for 1661.
It is said
that all the Pyes of Herefordshire were Catholic and Loyalists. They supported the
Stewart’s financially, raised troops and fought in their armies. Walter, a s/o
Sir Walter and Joan Rudhall Pye, went into exile with the Stewart’s in France
and remained there. Sir Walter was an
investor in the West Country Adventures and helped to finance Lord Baltimore’s
settlement in Newfoundland.
Eventually that colony moved to the Chesapeake Bay area of Maryland, where a grandson of Sir Walter
became a land owner. This Edward Pye settled in the Port Tobacco, La Plata area of CharlesCounty.
He is my 9th gt. grandfather.
Miles is my 25th great grandfather and is known
as the 1st Earl of Hereford. He was the son of Walter of Gloucester
and therefore is also known as Miles FitzWalter of Gloucester.
Walter’s wife was known as Berta. Some references refer to her as a
relative of Hamelin de Balun, Lord of Abergavenny, but does not confirm de
Balun as her family name. Walter’s father was Roger de Pitres, who was the Sheriff
of Gloucester, from about 1071 to about 1083. At that time Roger’s brother
became Sheriff and remained so until about 1096. The title then passed to
Walter, Roger’s son, who had the favor of King Henry I.
A charter dated to (1123) records that "Walt de
Gloec" gave Little Hereford in fee to "Willo de Mara nepoti
suo". "Walter de Gloecestria, Milo
fili ei…Willelm de Mara" witnessed the charter dated to (1127) (Round:
Ancient Charters. Part 1, 11 p.19) This
charter establishes that Walter of Gloucester gave Little Hereford to his nephew
(nepoti suo), William de Mara or William de la Mare, whose mother was Walter’s
sister. This does establish a family connection, yet “nepot suo” could mean
grandson. However the dates are more in line with William being Walter’s
nephew. There are other, earlier, charters (1101) that mention Walter and his
wife Bertha donated Westwode in Jerchenfeldf (Erchenfeld), for the memory of Walter’s
mother and father and for his brother, Herbert.
Walter’s son, Miles married Sybil de Neufmarché, daughter of
Bernard de Neufmarché. Sybil was the great granddaughter of Gruffydd ap
Llywelyn, King of Wales and his wife Edith of Mercia. King Stephen of England
granted to Miles the honor of Gloucester and Brecknock
in 1136 and appointed him Constable of Gloucester Castle. Miles met Empress
Matilda on her arrival in England
in 1139, acting as her Constable. He was created Earl of Hereford at Oxford 25 Jul 1141, by
Empress Matilda. He was also granted the castle of Abergavenny.
Miles was Sheriff of Gloucester by about 1128 and Sheriff of
Staffordshire by 1130. Together with Pain FitzJohn, who was Sheriff of
Herefordshire and Shropshire, they ruled the
entire Welsh border. By 1137 Miles had contributed property to Llanthony Abbey.
When Miles was killed in a hunting accident on Dec. 24 1143, he was laid to
rest at this abbey. His wife and others of his family were also buried there.
Ruins of Llanthony Abbey
Miles and Sybil had 5 sons and three daughters. All five
sons died without issue.
Of the three daughters, Margaret married Humphrey de Bohun
III, Bertha married William de Braose and Lucy married Herbert FitzHerbert.
When Miles’ son Roger died (d.s.p.) in 1155, the Earldom
became extinct. In 1200, Henry de Bohun (1176-1220), grand nephew and heir of
Earl Roger FitzMiles, was granted the Earldom by King John.
Miles’ sister, Margaret, had a son, also named Humphrey (IV)
after his father. This Humphrey married Margaret of Huntingdon, daughter of
Henry of Scotland
3rd Earl of Huntingdon and granddaughter of David I, King of Scotland.
Their son was Henry de Bohun who was restored to the Earldom
in 1200. He married Maud de Mandeville and they had Humphrey (V). This Humphrey
was married twice, first to Maud de Lusignan of Normandy,
and then later to Maud d’Avenbury. Next
the son of Humphrey (V) and his first wife, Maud of Lusignan, Humphrey (VI)
married Eleanor de Braose. This marriage connects two of the daughters of Miles
of Gloucester, Margaret and Bertha, as Humphrey (VI) is the 3x gt.
grandson of Miles and Eleanor is his 3x gt. granddaughter. This would make
Humphrey and Eleanor 4th cousins.
This continues on with the de Bohun’s who eventually married
into the Plantagenet family, children of various Royal branches.
Bertha’s son, William de Braose (2nd) has become
a rather infamous historical figure. He lured three Welsh Princes to a
Christmas feast at AbergavennyCastle, under the guise
of peace, and then had the three men murdered. He was exonerated and then
accompanied King Richard I to Normandy.
When King Richard died, he then supported King John’s claim to the throne.
Standing in the way was Arthur, the son of John’s older, deceased brother,
Geoffrey. Prince Arthur disappeared when he was 16 and the mystery of who, how,
what, when and where is still to be solved. William de Braose has been
suspected of dealing the same fate to Arthur as he did to the three Welsh
Princes, but nothing has ever been found to prove it. It is believed that, if
nothing else, he was aware of the who, how and when. He received lands from
King John and the speculation has been that these were rewards for his service
and his silence. However, he fell out of favor and was soon being hunted,
diligently, by King John’s men. William’s wife, Maud de St. Valery and their
son, William, were starved to death in 1210, while being held prisoner, in CorfeCastle.
In the dungeon, they were walled in, alive. William (the husband and father)
died the following year in France.
Although William and his mother died in the castle, William had been married
and had four sons, John de Braose being the eldest son. John’s mother was Maude
de Clare. John married Margaret ferch Llewelyn ap Iowerth, the granddaughter of King John, by his daughter,
Joan of England.
I have browsed many documents, books and other information
concerning the de Braose family. It seems they became more obscure after the
1300’s and some lines may have daughtered out. To be sure there are
descendants, but they may not carry the name de Braose. I have several lines to
different de Braose families, most of whom are women. I will leave the sorting
out to those who have the interest.
I’ve been asked several times just where Newfoundland
and Labrador are located. It’s an island Province
in Canada, off the coastline
of eastern North America, in the Gulf of St. Lawrence.
It comes in two parts, one a very large island and the rest, part of mainland Canada, sharing a border with Quebec and stretching far north. Its
farthest northern tip is on an equal level with the southern coast of Greenland. Its coastline is a continuous line of bays,
inlets and small islands, giving some areas an almost fjord-like look. The island of Newfoundland
is separated from mainland Newfoundland and
Labrador by the Strait of Belle Isle.
The northern areas are considered tundra and the southern is
taiga, a moist subarctic area dominated by spruce and fir trees. It begins
where the tundra ends. Newfoundland
was completely covered during the last ice age, so literally every living thing
was scraped from its surface. The soil is shallow and in the northern areas,
permafrost is only about a meter (approx. 39 inches) below the surface. This
makes it difficult for trees to take root since they can’t get through the
permafrost. Many animals have been introduced over the years, but Newfoundland has no
snakes, raccoons, skunks or porcupines.
A yearly phenomenon is the ice floes and ice bergs that
float past both east and west coasts. Many of these originate in Greenland where they calve off the glaciers. Others are
from the northern Labrador regions.
Fishing off the Grand Banks
has been the mainstay of this province for nearly five centuries. It drew both
local and International fishing fleets. It was said that the waters teemed with
Cod, enough so you could scoop them into a boat with a hand net. But in 1992,
the Canadian government feared the dwindling numbers of fish foreshadowed
extinction and placed an indefinite moratorium on fishing. This put about
30,000 people out of work and ended a way of life in many of the smaller
communities. Now, after twenty + years, the fish are making a comeback, slowly,
but it gives hope for a positive recovery.
remained an English colony until 1907 and then was given Dominion status,
which, basically, made it self-governing and relatively autonomous from British
rule. In 1927, Labrador officially became part
of the Dominion of Newfoundland. The British government passed the British
North America Act which officially joined Newfoundland
as a part of Canada,
in 1949. It should also be stated that the official and correct abbreviation
for Newfoundland and Labrador
is NL, replacing NFLD. It was noted while reading some articles that some
Newfies are offended by the use of the old version. It would be my guess that
this is not widely known. I certainly was unaware of it and I read articles
about Newfoundland and Labrador
Fishing seems to have begun here sometime in the 1500’s. The
fishermen came from England,
Ireland, France and Portugal then returned home,
heavily laden with the bounty of the sea. Soon, it became economically wiser to
have the fishing fleets stay for the entire fishing season before returning
home. Eventually, homes and villages began to spring up all along the
coast. Some of the families who came and
then stayed have descendants still living in NL.
The Earl (later Earle) family came from Devon and settled in
the ConceptionBay area; The Garlands were around
Carbonear before 1675; James Howell’s family claimed to have been there also by
1684 and Abraham King was residing there in 1708. Thomas Pike is listed for Carbonear for 1690
and John Snow’s family, from Dorset, claimed
to have been around since 1678. The Clark’s, from Devon or Cornwall, were in Crocker’s Cove by 1705 and
the Tuckers were in Port de Grave by the late 1600’s. John Pynn was appointed
Commander of the Garrison as a reward for his bravery in 1708. In 1729, William
Pynn and Charles Garland were Justices of the Peace for the Carbonear district,
which ran from Bay de Verde to Cape St. Francis. By 1747 there were more
Moores, Parsons, Butts and Pikes living in the ConceptionBay
area. To clarify a bit, Carbonear is a district within the ConceptionBay
In 1770-71, Thomas Reynolds and John Power were in Crocker’s
Cove. The Noel families, possibly from Jersey,
came to Harbor Grace around this time too. Thomas Burden is mentioned in 1790
and Elisha Pye arrived about 1799. The early settlers were mostly Church of
England immigrants from the West Country of England and The Channel Islands.
Along ConceptionBay’s northern shore is Mulley’s Cove where James
Reynolds, from Devon, settled in 1749. It
hasn’t been discovered how Thomas and James Reynolds may be connected, if at
all. A visitor to the area in early summer 1837, remarked on how deserted the
towns were along the shore from Carbonear to Victoria to Small Point and Blackhead. This
was because the families moved to the Labrador
sometime at the end of March and didn’t return again until September or later.
This was fishing season and the whole family participated, with the men and
young boys hauling the fish while the women, girls and younger children worked
on the beaches to prepare the fish for drying and salting. I can only think of
what back breaking labor that was and how the children of today would react to
that kind of life style.
Cecil J. Reynolds, a descendant of James Reynolds the
indentured servant, believed that the Vatchers, LaGrows, Mulleys, Milleys and,
probably, the Thistles, all had their origins in the Channel
Islands, while the King family probably came from the West Country
of England, where the name was quite numerous. James Reynolds (Rennolls) came
from Rockebeare, Devon aboard a ship with a
cargo of leather for Robert Lacey, a boot and shoemaker. James was an
indentured servant to Lacey for 7 years. When his indenture was up, the
American Revolution had begun causing the food supplies to dwindle, since they
came from the colonies. James signed on for another 7 year hitch with Lacey and
was around the age of 33 when he was finally released. It was then he married a
teenage girl named Elizabeth Kennedy. James Reynolds and Richard Moores had
plots for fishing rooms next to Michael Thistle as reported in the 1783
Plantation Book for Conception Bay North.
Finding the old histories has been time consuming, to say
the least. Some are so general, no names
are mentioned. Others are so detailed it takes hours to extract the information
you want. I wanted to see how many of my ancestors were involved in the early
days of Newfoundland
and was pleasantly surprised at the number I found. I am directly descended from
the Pyes, Laceys, Reynolds, Kennedys, Pikes, Thistles and Snows and I’m
related, by marriage, to the Butts, Sopers, Milleys, Kings, Slades, Clarkes, Powers,
Pynns, Coopers, Rumboldts, Harwood, Georges, Stones, Lewis, Davis, Heralds and
I found March to be a very disruptive month in ways that
interfered with writing any blog. I’m hoping all that is behind me now and that
I can get back to putting out a blog on a more regular basis.