Francis and Elizabeth Keillor Carmichael Expanded Part III

  

Includes the surnames: Lewis, Scholefield, Marra, Gross, Greene, Darstein,

Werle, Jones

Francis and Elizabeth Keillor Carmichael were m. c. 1794 in Aberlour, Scotland.  They had 9 children:

          *Thomson (1796-1861) m. in 1826 Elizabeth Barbara Hubley (1806-1881)                     – 15 children (See separate expanded form) (Thomson is the most                               extensive and will be the last expanded form rather than the first.)

           David (1799-?) no information

           Mary Ann Carmichael (1799-1874) m. William McCabe (1799-1876)                                                        (Expanded Form Part Ia and Part Ib)

          Robert (1800-?) no information

          Isobel Carmichael (1801-1864) m. c 1823 Robert Murray     

          James (1803-?) Name too common to determine any relationship

                    1839 in Fisher’s Grant, Pictou Co., NS

***Elizabeth Catherine (1804-1877)

          John (1806-?)There are a great many men named John. I found several John                          Thomson’s’ but not enough additional info to provide any further research.

          Isaac Carmichael m. Jane (Jenette) Hamilton; children: Sarah Jane m. Kenneth                         MacLeod; Mary B. m. David Dow; John Robert m. Margaret Raymond; David W.                   m. Cassie Fraser; Isabel m. Robert Douglas; James H. m. Elizabeth Mullins;                         George Henry m. Christy Ann Mullins; Isaac and Alexander – no info on these last                 two children.

     This expanded report will begin with ***Elizabeth Catherine. This is what I found about her.    

Elizabeth Catherine (who was known by her middle name) was b. 1804 at Pictou  Landing, NS. Although her father’s name was Francis, he appears as Frank in most documents. I found no marriage record for her, but an unverified date of 1829 in Fisher’s Grant, NS is given for her, by a family member. She married William Mahy and raised their family in or near Green Hill NS. I have not found all the children born to this couple. I had always thought the name Mahy was Irish, but in some of the records of the sons, they state their nationality as French. It is possible they were part of the Montbeliard immigration, although I didn’t find the Mahy name listed with those immigrants.

                                                    Pictou Landing, NS

I have found only three children so far. If Catherine and William were married in 1829, then there is a 10 year gap to the first child I found who was born in 1839. Generally there would be 3 – 4 children born in a ten year span, unless they all died. However I found neither birth nor death records in any case.  It is also possible that the marriage date is incorrect.

I have found:

          1. James William (1839-1911)                            

          2. Isobel (1845-1891)

          3. William Wallace ((1847-1934)

          1. James William (1839-1911) James was b. at Fisher’s Grant in NS. He                       married Louisa Fraser in 1863 in Pictou, NS. She was b. in 1842.  The 1880 RI (Rhode Island) census says he was a glass maker. I have found 8 children for them.

                    1a. George (1865-?) I couldn’t find a birth record for George but I                                 did find an immigration record for 1872 that said he was 7                                   yrs. old and b. in NS. He was with his parents and siblings                                  Charles, Emma and Mary (apparently a nickname for                                         Minnie). No further info.

                    1b. Charles A. (1867-1953) b. NS, by the 1880 Charles is living in                                 Brooklyn Township, Alameda CA. He’s married and has four                                         children, all of whom are listed in both the 1900 and 1910                                         censuses. Charles m. Flora Dunnigan c. 1892 and the four                                                     children were:

                                        1b/1. Clyde (1893-?)m. Kara Evelyn Grimmins. They                                                   had three children, Clyde (1920-bef 1930),                                                         Dorothy (1924-?) and Stanley (1925-?). No                                                        further info on Dorothy or Stanley.

                                        1b/2. Forrest (1895-?) No further info

                                        1b/3. Madeline (1897-?) m. in 1915 Charles Lewis.                                                       They had two children Evelyn (1916-?) and                                                         Charles (1918-?).

                                        1b/4. Ray Warren(1900-?) He was living with his                                                           mother in the 1920 census. No further info.                                                        There is a death record for Flora in 1923.

                              Charles and Flora divorced sometime before 1917, as there                               is a marriage record for him and Aurora Filmer in 1917, who                               had also been married before. She was from Manilla,                                          Phillipines.

                              There is another marriage record for him in 1945 to Hazel                                   Larson. This record said this was his 4^th marriage, but I was                               unable to find a record for the third marriage. It is unknown if                                                   he had more children with any of the other three wives.

         

                    1c. Emma Jane (1869-bef. 1871) b. NS – No further info

                    1d. Minnie Catherine (1871-1919) b. NS – No further info

                   

                    1e. Lillie Amelia (1875-?) b. in Providence RI, m. in 1896 Charles                                  H. Scholefield (b. 1863 in Rockville, CT). Their child, Paul                                    was b. in 1897 in Tyngsboro, MA where Charles was a                                       Baptist minister. Their second child, Floyd, was b. in                                           Shrewsbury, VT in 1899. The 1900 census has them still                                     living there. The 1910 census has them living on Main St. in                               Albion, NY, 1915 in Utica, NY, and 1920 in Trenton, NY. I’ve                                                   been unable to find a birth record for Kenneth nor can I find                                                     any death records for Charles and Lillie.

                              This family and my own have crossed paths, decades apart.                                                   My sister lived in Tyngsboro, MA for many years and I visited                               there frequently. I most likely passed by the Baptist Church a                                                   few times as well. But even more ‘small world’ is the fact the                                                   Albion, NY is about 20 miles from where I write this blog. I                                                       have indeed passed the Baptist Church and the house they                                                     lived in dozens of times. 

                                        1e/a. Paul Gordon (1897-1968) m. c  1925 Lillian                                                          Evans (1905-1980). They had three children,                                                      Gordon (1927-1933), Alice (1931-?) and                                                             Charles (1936-2005).

                                        1e/b. Floyd Mahy (1899-?) m. Dorothy Louise Hall in                                                     1923 at Indian Lake NY. They had two sons,                                                      Howard (1925-?) and Lyndon (1927-?).

                                        1e/c. Kenneth (1905-1983) m. Margie Unknown c.                                                        1926 and they had two children, Clifford (1930-                                                   ?) and Shirley (1936-?)

                    1f. Alice Louisa (1876-?) b. at Green Hill, NS. Records show she                                   was b. and living in NS in 1876, which indicates that James                                 and his family did not remain in RI. The family went to RI in                                 1872, but returned to NS by 1876, apparently back to the                                   family homestead in Green Hill. But they must have returned                               to RI as James has naturalization papers dated 1892. In                                     1910, Alice is in Providence RI, unmarried and a public                                       school teacher. In 1918, Alice married Louis Marra, who was                               b. in Italy and was studying to be a nurse. By 1920, Alice,                                   her husband and her daughter Sylvia, age 7 mos., were                                      living with her mother, Louisa, in Providence, RI. Alice was                                  still listed as being a teacher. In 1930, Alice is divorced, still                                 a teacher, still in Providence RI and has two daughters,                                      Sylvia, age 10 and Virginia age 8. In 1940, Alice is an                                         elementary school principal, still divorced, still in Providence                               and both daughters were still living with her.

                   

                    1g. Sarah S. (1879-?) b. at Green Hill, NS and is in 1881 cen. In the                               Providence RI, 1900 cen., her occupation is listed as type-                                  writer. In 1901 she married Arthur Garfield Gross, in                                           Providence. Charles Cedric was b. in 1903 and Harold Arthur was                                          b. in 1905. Charles died in 1909 at age 6. Harold was found in 1920 as                                  an inmate in an industrial school in Barrington, RI. In 1925 RI census,                                    Harold was at the United States Naval Torpedo Station in Newport,                                        Rhode Island.

                              The 1930 census indicates that he was married when he                                     was 21 to a woman named Ruth. They lived in Cranston                                     City, RI and had two children, Ruth, age 3, and Harold,                                       age 2. Harold’s occupation was a refiner of gold and silver.                                 By 1940, another child has arrived, George age 5. They are                               living in the Town of Coventry, RI and Harold is now a truck                               driver for road improvement. I was unable to find a death                                    record for Harold A.

                              In the 1920 census, Sarah is living with her mother, Louisa Mahy. Her                                    last name is now listed as a Banister and that she is a widow. I was not                                  able to find divorce records for her and Arthur nor marriage and death                                    records for any Banister that fit the location and the time-line. In the                                        1930 census, Sarah is living alone and her occupation is Physical                                          Therapist. I found no records for Sarah after this date.

                             

                    1h.  Grace (1884-?) b. in RI, went by her middle name Edith. There                                                   is a birth record for her for 1884 in RI. She was the only child                                                   of James and Louisa to be born in the USA. She married, in                               1909, Arthur Phillip Greene (Green) who was born in                                          England. The 1910 census shows them living in Providence                               RI and Arthur was a clerk in a merchandizing store. 1920                                    shows Arthur as an Agent at a Hardware Store. There are no                               children listed for them. In the 1930 census, it shows the                                    family living in Foxborough MA with two children, Elizabeth,                                 age 10 and Audrey, age 3. Elizabeth was adopted in 1929                                  and Audrey was born in St. John, New Brunswick in 1927.                                  Arthur is the owner of a Hardware Store and Edith also                                       works there as a clerk. In 1940, only Edith and Audrey                                        appear in the census. Edith is a seamstress and Audrey is                                  still in school. In the 1945 Florida census, Arthur is listed with                               the family and in 1946 he is a witness to his daughter,                                        Audrey’s, marriage to Henry Darstein who was born in                                        Ogden UT.

Here endeth the family of James Mahy. Next will be his sister Isobel Mahy.

          2. Isobel (1845-1891) has proved to be a bit of an enigma. Her birth year has been                           derived from the year she died at age 46. No records in NS or RI could be                             found to support this other than the death record. She married Franz (Frank)                         Werle sometime in the early 1870’s. Frank immigrated from his native born                             Germany in 1869. I have only been able to find three children for them Calvin,                       Walter and Maude.

                    2a. Calvin (1875-1944) Was b. in Providence RI, m. in 1901 to                                      Flora Isabella Belcher. They had two daughters, Doris, b.                                    1903 and Hope, b. 1904. Calvin was a house carpenter,                                     possibly working with his father-in-law who was a house                                      builder.

                   

                    2b. Walter (1878-?) In 1900, there is an enlistment for Walter Werle                               in the Military stationed at Fort Williams, Maine. His rank was                               Pvt. Another 1900 doc. shows he was in the Army Artillery.                                 In 1918, his draft registration for WWI shows him living in                                    Hartford CT and that Calvin is his nearest relative. He was a                                                   teamster and did not indicate that he was married. In 1942                                                       his draft registration for WWII shows him living in Harford,                                                       MD. He appears to be unmarried. No further info on him.

                    

                    2c. Maude (1882-1934) In 1900, Maude was 17 and working as a                                 domestic servant. She married John Willie Jones in 1910. By                                                   1915 in the RI census, she is back to being a domestic                                                           servant in a home and no mention of her husband. In the 1930 Federal                                  census she is in Cranston RI, in the State Hospital for Mental Diseases.                                  it indicates she is a widow.  A death record is found for her in 1934,                                        where she died at Cranston, RI. This record did indicate her father was                                  Frank and her mother was Isobelle. No COD was listed. She was                                           age 52.

         

          3. William Wallace Mahy (1847-1934) William married Jeannette Duncan                       Milne in Providence RI in 1870. He was 23 and she was 29. {I have                     seen her name spelled Janet, Janette, Jennette, Janetta and                                                  several other ways.} I have found 4 children for them.

                    3a. Male child (1871-1871) – stillborn

                    3b. Joseph William (1873-1873)

                    3c. George Edward (1874-?) m. Mildred Jordan, unknown date.                                    They had three daughters Elsie, b. 1899, Marion, b. 1901                                   Dorothy b. 1905. George was a steam engineer. Their                                        daughter, Marion, d. 1917, of Diabetes Mellitus, at the age of                               16. In 1918, his WWI draft registration says they were living                               in Brockton MA and he was a steam engineer at the Bancroft                               Hotel in Worcester, MA. After this draft registration, I couldn’t                               find any further info on this family. 

                    3d. Annie L. (1880-?) In 1910 she was single, age 30 and living                                     with her widowed father. She was a bookkeeper. In the RI                                  census of 1925 she was a lodger and still single. In the 1940                               Federal census she is living at 199 Morris Ave., in                                               Providence RI and is age 63. No work information is                                           recorded for her.

          William’s wife, Jeannette, died in 1909 and William d. in 1934, at the age   of 87. They died in Providence RI and it is believed they are buried there but that information was not found.

To add to the confusion, many of Francis Carmichael’s children were born in Fishers Grant, NS and the rest of them were born in Pictou Landing. To clarify, these two names refer to the same place. It is believed that the name changed when ferries began landing at Fisher’s Grant. Today it is part of the Pictou Landing First Nation Reserve.

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